In this episode, we chat with fellow evaluator Kylie Hutchinson about her new book Evaluation Failures: 22 Tales of Mistakes Made and Lessons Learned, which was released in September. Kylie is the principal consultant and founder of Community Solutions, a planning and evaluation firm in British Columbia. She chats with us about her reasons for writing the book, the importance of learning from our failures, and her own experiences as a professional evaluator. Also, spoiler alert: Kylie confesses that she doesn’t spend her time listening to podcasts about program evaluation and claims that she would only tune in to another podcast episode if it included a true crime narrative presented in the style of Serial. Challenge accepted, Ms. Hutchinson.

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As always, thank you for tuning in! Next month, we will chat with Justin Rivers, founder of The Character Connection Initiative. Justin sheds some light on the inherent challenges of doing program evaluation at a very small nonprofit while also trying to measure something as tricky as “character development.” We hope you’ll join us for the conversation!